Artifacts of Live
Dinosaurs, some interacting with Humans
Doctors Cabrera and Patton have many photographs of interest on Dr. Patton's web site at http://www.bible.ca/tracks/. You may purchase these photographs from his web site. He also has some very interesting videos you can buy at prices far below what he could be getting for these videos. You can even watch all of his videos from his web site, allowing you to try before you buy.
We are grateful to Dr. Cabrera and Dr. Patton for allowing us to put these photographs on our web site. . The descriptions that appear next to each photograph appeared next to the photo's that we scanned. Click on the small thumbnail picture to see a larger, more detailed version of each.
INCA BURIAL STONES
Dr. Javier Cabrera (above left with Geologist, Dr. Don Patton) was professor of medicine and head of his department at the University of Lima. He has retired from that position and is presently the Cultural Anthropologist for Ica, Peru. In the early 1930's, his father found many of these ceremonial burial stones in area's numerous Inca tombs. Dr. Cabrera has continued his father's research and has collected over 1100 of them. Approximately one third depict the pornographic culture of the Incas, graphically portrayed in the artifacts of that period (c.a. 500-1500 AD). Some picture their idolatry (#5 below), other represent amazing accomplishments, such as successful brain surgery (#4 below) confirmed by scarred skulls which demonstrate healed recovery.
Almost one third of the stones depict specific types of dinosaurs, like those seen below, as well as Triceratops, Stegosaurus and Pterosaurs. Several diplodocus-like dinosaurs have what appear to be dermal frills (#3 below). Confirmation of these features has been reported only recently (Geology, 12/1992, v.20, No.12, p.1068-1070).
The Indian chronicler, Juan de Santa Cruz Pachachuti Llamgui wrote that at the time of the Inca Pachachuti many carved stones were found in the Kingdom of Chinca, in Chinchayunga, which were called "Manco." (Juan de Santa Cruz Pachachuti Llamqui: "Relacion de antique dades d'este reyno del Peru.") The reference to "Chinchayunga" was the low country of the central coast of Peru, where Ica is located today. "Manco" is believed to be a corruption of the Aymara word "malku" which means "Chieftain" or "lord of vassals." It is noted that some of these stones were taken back to Spain. The chronicler of the Incas wrote in about 1570.
The OJO, Lima Domingo, a major newspaper in Lima, Peru on October 3, 1993 described a Spanish Priest traveling in the are of Ica in 1525 inquiring about the unusual engraved stones with strange animals on them.
All of this is very interesting since "modern" man's conception of dinosaurs did not begin until the 1800's when the word dinosaur was coined (1841). These stones do not depict skeletons but live, active dinosaurs, most of whom are seen interacting with man. The obvious implication is that ancient Peruvians saw and lived with dinosaurs.
|Clay Figurines found at base of El Toro
The drawing at the left (not pictured because of copyright issues) is from Bob Bakker's book, Dinosaur Heresies (1986). He begins by telling the story of his realization, "There's something wrong with our dinosaurs." He says, "I had grown up with the dinosaurian orthodoxy about dinosaur ways - how the were swamp bound monsters of sluggish dispositions, plodding with somnolent strides through the sodden terrain..." His contrasting view has drastically altered the way dinosaurs are now depicted.
The same modern ideas are reflected in clay figurines from the Pre-classical Chupicuaro Culture (800 B.C to 200 A.D.) found near Acambaro, Guanajuato, Mexico. Ankylosaurs exhibited a great deal of variety as do our modern dogs, however, the general type is readily recognizable in the Acambaro figurine. The most obvious explanation for hundreds of life-like depiction's of dinosaurs is that they have not been gone that long. These people saw them.
|In 1945 German archeologist,
Waldemar Julsrud discovered clay figurines buried at the
foot of El Toro Mountain on the outskirts of Acambaro,
Guanajuato, Mexico. Eventually over 32,000 figurines and
artifacts were found. They were similar to artifacts
identified with the Pre-classical Chupicuaro Culture (800
BC to 200 AD) found throughout this area.
The authenticity of the find was challenged because the collection included dinosaurs. Since many archeologists believe dinosaurs have been extinct for the past 65 million years and man's knowledge of them has been limited to the past 200 years. If this is true, man could not possibly have seen and modeled them 2500 years ago. In 1954 the Mexican government sent four well known archeologists to investigate. A different but nearby site was selected and meticulous excavation was begun. They found numerous examples of similar figurines and concluded that the find was authentic. However, three weeks later their report declared the collection to be a fraud because of the "fantastic representation of man and dinosaur together."
In 1955 Charles Hapgood, respected (1) Professor of Anthropology at the University of New Hampshire, concluded an elaborate investigation including extensive radiometric dating. Interestingly, his work was supported by Earl Stanley Gardner, former District Attorney of the city of Los Angeles, California and the creator of Perry Mason. Hapgood responded to charges that Julsrud manufactured the figurines, by excavation under the house of the Chief of Police, which was built 25 years before the Julsrud arrived. Forty three more examples of the same type were found, including dinosaurs. Three radiocarbon tests were performed by Isotopes Incorporated of New Jersey resulting in dates of 1640 BC, 4530 BC and 1110 BC. Eighteen samples were subjected to thermoluminescent testing by the University of Pennsylvania, all of which gave dates of approximately 2500 BC. These results were subsequently withdrawn when it was learned that some of the samples were from dinosaurs.
In 1990 an investigation was conducted by Neal Steedy, an archeologist who's livelihood depends on contract work from the Mexican government. He arbitrarily selected an excavation site considerably removed form the Julsrud site. Shards were found but no figurines. He commissioned radiocarbon tests for a few samples from the Julsrud collection which produced a range of dates; 4000 years for a human face and 1500 years for a dinosaur. However, he concluded that the laboratory had not given true dates because he felt the samples were too soft to last more than 20 years.
|Nasca culture (in Peru) Burial Cloths
and Pottery (700 A.D.)
Tombs in the deserts of Peru often preserve amazing artifacts which are very old, including the beautiful, intricate textiles of the Nasca culture (ca. 700 A.D.). These textiles depict living dinosaurs as do their ceremonial burial stones and pottery, indicating that these awesome creatures were still alive at the time and ancient Peruvians saw them.
|Footnote: 1 - In the forward to the book, Earth's Shifting Crust, Albert Einstein said Hapgood's concept could be of "great importance to everything that is related to the earth's surface."|